On the other side of the fence, the guys at AMDZone have reviewed the new budget condender from AMD, the Athlon 64 2800+. The A64 2800+ isn't slow by any means, but it does appear that the loss of 200MHz (down to 1.8GHz) on the Hammer core really impacts performance. The 2800+ may not be worth the money you'd save buying this CPU instead of the Athlon 64 3000+. (See our A64 3000+ review for the scoop on that chip.) As for overclocking, the review doesn't say much about it, but they're promising more info soon.