The TR Podcast 37: Frothing at the MacHole, not-so-new GPUs, and a trip down memory lane


Date: March 7, 2009

Time: 1:45:31

Hosted by Jordan Drake

Co-Hosts: Scott Wasson, Cyril Kowaliski, Matt Butrovich

Guest: Jason Fox

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Show notes

This episode features our largest panel ever, with both our regular team and new TR blogger Jason Fox. We kick off the show by exploring Jason’s first post, in which he described his recent exodus from cable TV to over-the-air HD broadcast. After discussing services like Hulu and Boxee, our panel gets down and dirty in a platform debate over the latest Mac hardware upgrades. As the show goes on, we get schooled by Intel’s Convertible Classmate PC, explore Nvidia’s mobile GPU branding controversy, and dig through Geoff’s closet to find legacy tech toys.

Send in listener mail, and we’ll answer on the podcast. – jdrake@techreport.com

Tech discussion:

    Stickin’ it to the sat man (0:03:34)- Read more

    Mac Pro, iMac, Mac mini get hardware upgrades (0:28:13)- Read more

    Nvidia’s GeForce GTS 250 graphics card (0:46:02)- Read more

    Nvidia intros mobile GeForce GTX 200 GPUs… sort of (0:55:54)- Read more

    Poll: Your take on Nvidia’s mobile GPU branding (0:59:26)- Read more

    Nvidia sees itself making x86 SoCs eventually (1:07:21)- Read more

    Intel’s Convertible Classmate PC (1:14:16)- Read more

    Asus’ Eee PC 1000HE netbook (1:24:20)- Read more

    Eee Keyboard to launch next quarter at around $400 (1:32:02)- Read more

    A trip down memory lane (1:34:20)- Read more

That’s all, folks! Check back on March 14 for the next TR podcast.

Comments closed
    • ssidbroadcast
    • 11 years ago

    Two things:

    1) Jason Fox kinda sounds like Seth McFarlane.

    2) Jordan, what happened to the chapters? They’re gone in this episode, but you had them around for the last episode. (downloaded directly from iPod Touch)

      • jdrake
      • 11 years ago

      They’re not gone in this episode…. we have an m4a version and an mp3 version…. and the chapters are always put into the m4a version. Try re-downloading

        • ssidbroadcast
        • 11 years ago

        Ah, thanks. I must’ve downloaded the mp3 feed and not the “enhanced feed”

    • End User
    • 11 years ago

    The Mac mini is underpowered?

    I am seriously thinking of replacing my current Dual G5 2.7 Power Mac with the new Mac mini. The Mac mini is substantially more powerful in both CPU and GPU and it supports dual 1920×1200 displays. Heck, its even more powerful than my 2.33 Core 2 Duo MacBook Pro!

    • End User
    • 11 years ago

    Whoever mentioned the “discreet tower” as a replacement for an iMac should bow their head in shame. You don’t get it. Move along.

    I can’t believe someone mentioned the “super computer” tag-line. That goes back to 1999! It refers to the G4 (http://web.archive.org/web/20010214003018/www.apple.com/powermac/processor.html). Talk about living in the past.

      • _Sigma
      • 11 years ago

      What’s there not to get – it’s a computer in a monitor.

        • End User
        • 11 years ago

        The importance of price differs between that of someone buying an iMac to that of someone buying the “discreet tower” system. Price is less of a factor for the person considering the iMac. OS, applications, ease of use, form factor, design, brand – these are more (much more) important than price. The person who suggested the “discreet tower” can’t come to terms with that. Jordan gets it, the others don’t.

        The 24″ iMac is an awesome machine at an awesome price (I use a 20″ 2.66 iMac at work). Well worth the money. No excuses needs.

        And before you accuse me of being an Apple fanboy i would like to point out that I do build my own PC’s, I bought Vista x64 the day it was released (big mistake) and I am running Widows 7 on my secondary PC. 😛

      • Cyril
      • 11 years ago

      I don’t recall anyone suggesting a plain desktop tower as an actual replacement for the iMac–just as a missing item in Apple’s product line. (The Mac Pro is really more of a workstation, and it’s priced accordingly.)

        • End User
        • 11 years ago

        Just after the 37:42 mark.

          • DrDillyBar
          • 11 years ago

          “…Small discrete tower under your desk…”

            • End User
            • 11 years ago

            Sigh. It’s got nothing to do with where you put it!

    • Pax-UX
    • 11 years ago

    Great show guys!

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      • Pax-UX
      • 11 years ago

      Forgot to say… Mac don’t need to be the fastest, so doing a performance evaluation against a PC is missing how Apple are positioned in the market. They don’t sell systems because they’re fast but as a tool to get stuff done, the end users couldn’t careless about what’s in the case. If even 10% of those who bought computers knew what they were running I’d be amazed.

        • _Sigma
        • 11 years ago

        If performance doesn’t matter, why are there dual Xeon i7s?

          • Pax-UX
          • 11 years ago

          That’s just the very highend, your average Apple User wouldn’t be buying one of them. Those are for mostly Final Cut pro.

    • DrDillyBar
    • 11 years ago

    Great episode guys. Jordan took it well. lol. Self depricating humor FTW!
    Geoff was correct when he said that now that Apple is using proper hardware in their systems that it’s harder to have a problem with them; The reference to “It’s a super computer!!1!” really had to stop.
    And the Voodoo2 discussion brought a smile to my face. 🙂
    Bring on the next one!
    And I used to drive a ’88 Accord, so a ’95 isn’t that bad.

    • Fighterpilot
    • 11 years ago

    Even geeks can have class…a 95 Maxima tho fails at that.
    You need a better job man 🙂

    • Bashiba
    • 11 years ago

    Jordan really proved today that he is the perfect I need to be Trendy and seen carrying a Mac guy. Not just during his Fanboy Mac talk. The statement that really sealed it for me, was when they were talking about the cheap school Net Tops, and he said something like “I wouldn’t want to be seen carrying one of those around.” LOL, grab your Mac and your Razor cell phone and head down to Starbucks to do some writing in front of people Jordan.

    All kidding aside. Great Job today guys.

      • jdrake
      • 11 years ago

      Yup…. that’s me – REALLY trendy.

      I’ve got my wal-mart jeans – my 95 nissan maxima – crappy flip phone that my boss pays for (different boss… not Damage) – and cheap $10 hair cut.

      Dude… I’m a tragically nerdy geek… trendy is the least of my worries;-)

      No Starbucks in my home town either…. although I have been spotted at Panera on occasion…

        • Meadows
        • 11 years ago

        Jordan Drake may ask for a raise, sources suggest.

    • ssidbroadcast
    • 11 years ago

    I’ve got Scott’s back on Apple’s poor GPU-pairing decision with the Mac Pro.

    Look jordan, Final Cut might be a CPU-centric app, but Maya or Cinema4D isn’t necessarily. This Mac Pro isn’t an attractive package for video game developers. (Even though believe-it-or-not launch titles for the XBOX360 were developed and ran on PPC power macs. Edit: This was before Microsoft had an adequate supply of SDK machines.)

    • _Sigma
    • 11 years ago

    It keeps saying that something is wrong when I try to download from iTunes. Is this just me?

    • Risme
    • 11 years ago

    Enjoyed listening to the podcast, as always. On a funny sidenote, Jordan must have had a really good 2008 since he can’t quite shake it off from his head. Either that or my ears are playing a game on me around 104 minutes 38 seconds mark.

    Keep it up guys, and hopefully Scott will get better soon.

      • ssidbroadcast
      • 11 years ago

      Yeah he ended the show saying 2008 : )

    • esterhasz
    • 11 years ago

    Concerning the Mac pricing debate: value has as its source a mix of utility and desire. Some crave speed, some crave design, others want cheap. There are people who think that paying a little more for a computer that’s not fugly like most PCs is a bargain because these boxes are part of the furniture and therefore influence quality of living… personally I don’t care about design but I would argue that seeing processing performance as the sole source of value is probably a little bit “industrial age”…

      • green
      • 11 years ago

      well the otherside of it is the stability
      you get less issues with osx than you do with xp/vista
      but that’s been more due to it being a small target
      as apple casts it’s net wider, you’ll see more issues

      as an example, the other year my boss said he bluescreened his mac
      i thought he was an idiot till i saw what he was looking at
      not “the” bsod, but a blue screen where nothing happened
      had to re-install leopard to get it working again
      he’s stickin by it though. its “prettier” to use

      for me though apple’s prices are about right for what you get
      i mean that apple badge does cost a lot to make you know
      espcially testing the badge to make sure it’s working right…

      • Meadows
      • 11 years ago

      The argument for “slower but prettier” computers is the exact same one that supports “stupid fashion models”. I don’t like either. If I wanted a girl, I’d pick one who isn’t dumb over another who’s worth a lot of money, and similarly, if I want a computer, I’ll get one that does the job the best (I will only look at the screen output mostly anyway, what do I care if it’s ugly or beige or both).

      -Yeah, this is not a computer-car reference. Shocking.

    • jonybiskit
    • 11 years ago

    lolz u failed the first time you tried to post it =)

      • silent ninjah
      • 11 years ago

      Yeah, I listened to the first post, seems like it was about 30 min shorter 😛

      Jordan took the Mac abuse a bit too personally I think, hehe.

    • GFC
    • 11 years ago

    Omg!! This made my day! 🙂 My most fav. podcast, ty guys, and gl with website and podcasting!

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