The TR Podcast 64: Pots and kettles, Moorestown, and AMD strikes back

The Tech Report Podcast Date: May 9, 2010

Time: 1:29:40

Hosted by Jordan Drake

Co-Hosts: Scott Wasson, Cyril Kowaliski, Geoff Gasior

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Show notes

We’re back to our classic format with our full panel this week. After answering a question from a loyal listener and covering some miscellaneous topics, Scott, Geoff, Cyril, and Jordan jump right into the biggest story of the show: HP moves to acquire Palm for $1.2 billion. Our panelists give their thoughts on this major move, and we discuss the viability of Windows 7 versus Palm’s webOS on future slate devices.

Scott goes on to give us his take on the promising new low-power Intel Moorestown platform. Finally, in the mobile department, we cover Steve Jobs’ rant about Adobe Flash, and Jordan speaks out of turn as the resident fanboy. Scott and Cyril also cover the exciting new Phenom II X6 processors, and Geoff rounds up the latest AMD based motherboards, giving us the low-down on why AMD’s 890FX is such a great chipset.

Send in listener mail, and we’ll answer on the podcast. – jdrake@techreport.com

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Listener mail:

A mobile version of TR? – from ssidbroadcast – (0:05:21):

“Some websites nowadays have a mobile-equivalent version of their website that is lighter in resources and free of flash ads. People on their smart phones, iPhones, or iPod Touches are usually re-directed to these versions on their browser. Some examples might be the ubiquitous facebook or marketplace.org. I visit TR a lot when I’m on the go, and because of the flash ads (using an android) the browsing is kinda sluggish. Would The Tech Report ever consider making a mobile version? Or would that cost too much?”

Tech discussion:

    HP to acquire Palm for $1.2 billion (0:14:42)- Read more

    HP said to have scrapped Windows 7 slate (0:22:53)- Read more

    Inside Intel’s Atom Z600 series (0:28:24)- Read more

    Steve Jobs posts long rant about Adobe Flash (0:43:50)- Read more

    AMD’s Phenom II X6 processors (0:52:34)- Read more

    Asus, Gigabyte, and MSI tackle AMD’s 890FX chipset (1:08:53)- Read more

That’s all, folks! We’ll see you on the next episode.

Comments closed
    • glynor
    • 9 years ago

    I just wanted to say thanks for this episode, Jordan (and the whole crew, of course). I finished listening to it on my way to work this morning, and it was superb, as always.

    I did want to point out two little things:

    1. Perhaps the performance issues ssid was seeing on his mobile, that he related to the Flash Ads, aren’t entirely flash related. Anand did some tests on the new HTC Incredible and found it had browser performance problems both with and without Flash. Interesting results and worth checking out. I’m not sure, of course, what platform ssid is using.

    2. Sorry, Jordan. Flash is absolutely a closed and proprietary platform. It is not a published standard, and you can’t (without reverse engineering it) build your own interpreter for it, like you can for HTML, JavaScript, C, C++, ObjectiveC, and C# (just to name a few examples).

    Just because you are free to write whatever Flash applications you want does not make Flash an Open Platform. That isn’t what “Open Platform” means in this context. And this has been true for quite some time and Jobs was not the first person to complain about it. For example, here’s an article from 2008 about the head of Mozilla complaining about many of the exact same things: §[< http://www.zdnet.com/news/mozilla-warns-of-flash-and-silverlight-agenda/199508<]§ I am not arguing that Apple does not also create a ton of closed platforms. They do, obviously. While all of Jobs' points against Flash were very valid, they were also all essentially just "excuses". He left out the "primary" reason Apple doesn't want flash on the iPhone OS, which is: To Protect The App Store Model. This doesn't mean allowing Flash to continue to be a requirement for full access to the web is a good idea. It isn't at all and Apple's action seems like the best hope we have right now for dislodging Flash from that position. But he was certainly more than a little disingenuous with his rant and reasoning.

      • axeman
      • 9 years ago

      AFAIK, there’s not much for alternates to Adobe when it comes to authoring flash content either. Flash is a serious vendor lock-in problem, which lends itself to big thing that people complain about, performance. Since there is no real competition here, there is little motivation to fix it. GPU acceleration? puleaze. Next thing you know, we’ll need a quad-core PC to run a word processor. oh, wait.

    • Philldoe
    • 9 years ago

    You know, I’ve been wanting a mobile version of TR, but in all honesty, TR renders perfectly find and workds well in both Opera mini and my Blackberry’s(Bold 9000 with OS 5.0.509) standard browser.

    I’d still like a mobile version, it wouldn’t take much at all to trim the TR CSS to work better on them.

    As for an iPhone app, fine, as long as you still make a mobile version. Many of us here at TR use Blackberry’s and Android phones.

      • glynor
      • 9 years ago

      I agree. The TR website also works fine in Mobile Safari. I would sure prefer a well-designed mobile page (ala the AppleInsider mobile page), but really mostly if it wasn’t a huge pain to accomplish.

      I’d have absolutely no interest in a TR App, even though I am on an iPhone. Site-specific apps generally don’t appeal to me. Isn’t that why we have a web browser? The only way these seem worthwhile is when they really serve a specific function or provide additional content. But only when it wouldn’t work as well to add the function or content to the web site itself (for UI reasons or utility, for example). “Segregating” content off to the App for no reason other than to have a value-add for the App, leaves a bad taste.

      Edit: Re-edited because it was written terribly before.

    • Welch
    • 9 years ago

    1 Vote here for a Mobile TR… I’ve even made long-winded posts on the forums with my Android phone :P. Mobile articles would be great though 🙂

      • masaki
      • 9 years ago

      Still no related thread in the Developer’s Den for the possible iPhone app…

    • TaBoVilla
    • 9 years ago

    I shall also win a techreport complete system giveaway to gain notoriety and fame

      • NarwhaleAu
      • 9 years ago

      I, too, wish to gain notoriety and fame.

    • Meadows
    • 9 years ago

    You could’ve gone more “techy” and put a Utah teapot there instead. 😉

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