The TR Podcast 91: Llano is Audi

The Tech Report Podcast Date: July 10, 2011

Time: 1:08:42

Hosted by Jordan Drake

Co-Hosts: Scott Wasson, Geoff Gasior, Cyril Kowaliski

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We kick off this latest TR Podcast with a reminder that, if you’re a TR reader and you live near or within flying distance of lake Michigan, you’re more than welcome to attend the annual TR BBQ. After that piece of community news, our podcast panel gets down and dirty with DiRT 3, which Geoff has had a chance to play and review. Our gaming coverage also includes a second look at the somewhat disappointing (at least at launch) Crysis 2—a game that may have redeemed itself with a monstrous, multi-gigabyte DirectX 11 patch.

We then move on to the desktop version of AMD’s A-series Fusion APU, a.k.a. Llano. Scott gives us another in-depth expose on these new processors, not to mention some insightful guesses about the origins of AMD’s latest naming scheme. On the industry news front, Cyril and Scott discuss some juicy rumors about next-gen of GPUs from AMD and Nvidia. Finally, we bring up the rather odd Silverstone Raven RV03 enclosure and wonder—is it innovative or just weird for weirdness’ sake?

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Tech discussion:

    TR BBQ 2011 is one month from today – Read more

    Riding DiRTy – Read more

    Crysis 2 DX11 ‘Ultra Upgrade’ arrives – Read more

    AMD’s A8-3850 Fusion APU – Read more

    Report: AMD could beat Nvidia to the punch with 28-nm GPUs – Read more

    Silverstone’s Raven RV03 case – Read more

That’s all, folks! We’ll see you on the next episode.

Comments closed
    • codedivine
    • 8 years ago

    Waiting for the episode 92 🙂

    • ssidbroadcast
    • 8 years ago

    Good podcast. Can’t wait for the next one. Close your window next time, Cyril.

    • Darkmage
    • 8 years ago

    Happy birthday, Jordan! An excellent podcast, as usual.

    • sweatshopking
    • 8 years ago

    dear jordan. i haven’t listened to the podcast, but people seem to be saying it’s your birthday. let me know where you want me to pop out of cake covered in whipping cream singing to you. Since you moved to NY, we obviously can’t do it at the same place as last year. Did you want me to wear the cat ears, nose and tail again?

      • jdrake
      • 8 years ago

      Nah… this year I’m all about Harry Potter… can you get some Hogwarts robes and a wand?

        • sweatshopking
        • 8 years ago

        dude, that would be awesome. I think i can scrounge some up… you want me to get the round glasses too?

          • jdrake
          • 8 years ago

          Always.

    • Arclight
    • 8 years ago

    Happy Birthday!!!

    I don’t know 1/3 of the sh*t you know about PCs. How did you got so much knowledge from such a small age?

    Anyways, on topic:

    @ Llano, i think i made the same exact point in a previouse comment, i don’t see the value/use for this chip.

    @ Semiacurate article on 28 nm, doesn’t really matter, what will matter will be who will have higher gaming performance and at what price. I agree that nVdia can screw up big time by concentrating too much on GPGPU. We will have to wait and see.

      • bluepiranha
      • 8 years ago

      +1.

      It’s more like I can’t see a use for their Llano desktop silicon. As a low-power/mobile solution though (nettops, netbooks, entry-level/midrange notebooks), it seems to make much more sense.

      I was expecting a quantum leap from AMD somewhere, but Llano just isn’t it. There’s a connection to Bulldozer mentioned on the podcast; if so it doesn’t look good for AMD’s competitiveness vs. Intel in terms of compute power IMHO.

        • sweatshopking
        • 8 years ago

        Llano is a fine chip. it’s just not for me or you. it would be perfect for my aunt, mother, grandmother, sister…. etc. fast enough cpu, with fast enough GPU. it’s good enough. I can realize it’s not sexy for you guys, but it does everything your average user wants, and the “but you just need to spend another 70$ on a discrete for 2x the performance!!!” argument is silly. they don’t want to do that. they just want a cheap computer that works well enough. the value/use is mom’s and sisters. THAT’S who it’s for.

          • bluepiranha
          • 8 years ago

          What about the TDP/power draw though? Kind of high on the desktop parts for the purpose, don’t you think? I was thinking moms and sisters would be interested in saving some energy here and there…

            • sweatshopking
            • 8 years ago

            I don’t think so. IME, moms and sisters don’t correlate their computer usage with the power bill. Electric bills just come, pricing has no rhyme or reason, they just pay it. With the 65w triple cores out, i see no reason not to recommend them to average users.

    • codedivine
    • 8 years ago

    Jordan, you are damned young! Enjoy!
    As for Llano on the desktop, I am a little worried about the 32nm GloFo process given the extremely poor power consumption of desktop Llano variants. If GF 32nm is indeed having trouble at higher frequency, that bodes bad things for bulldozer which was designed to be a speed monster rather than an a high IPC architecture.

    • Xylker
    • 8 years ago

    AMD has named recent cores / platforms for Texas landmarks… may I present to you the Texan pronunciation of Llano:

    [url<]http://video.pbs.org/video/1965380687[/url<] (Skip ahead to 2:15) Yeah, I should have mentioned it last time.

      • bdwilcox
      • 8 years ago

      Oh, man! That Cooper’s BBQ looks outrageous. Each Llano chip should ship with a pork chop in the box.

        • Xylker
        • 8 years ago

        Cooper’s is my favorite BBQ in the state.

    • odizzido
    • 8 years ago

    Having the D2 graphics only work with dx01/11 doesn’t make much sense to me. One of the first things I do for performance is to run dx9 instead of 10/11. Considering how slow the GPUs you need to make this work are I couldn’t see myself running D2 often at all.

    • bhtooefr
    • 8 years ago

    Yeah, but Brazos doesn’t have an S-Series yet…

    Maybe VIA will name the raccoons Boxster, Cayman, and 911?

      • SAMSAMHA
      • 8 years ago

      happy birthday jordan.

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