Ryzen Pro platform brings a dash of Epyc to corporate desktops

At this point, it seems safe to say that AMD’s Ryzen CPUs have proven a success for system builders. Today, AMD is establishing a beachhead for those chips in the corporate IT world with its Ryzen Pro platform. Ryzen Pro products blend Ryzen’s performance with corporate-friendly security and manageability features, and they’ll come with certain assurances regarding platform stability and availability that the consumer AM4 platform doesn’t offer. The Ryzen Pro series also marks the first official appearance of AMD’s long-rumored Ryzen 3 CPUs.

The Ryzen Pro lineup looks pretty similar to the Ryzen 7 and Ryzen 5 families of chips we’re already familiar with.  Check out the base of the lineup, however, and you’ll spot AMD’s first official Ryzen 3 parts.

Model Cores/

threads

Base/boost

clocks (GHz)

Cache

(L2 + L3)

TDP
Ryzen 7 Pro 1700X 8/16 3.5/3.7 4+16MB 95W
Ryzen 7 Pro 1700 3.0/3.7 65W
Ryzen 5 Pro 1600 6/12 3.2/3.6 3+16MB
Ryzen 5 Pro 1500 4/8 3.5/3.7 2+16MB
Ryzen 3 Pro 1300 4/4 3.5/3.7 2+8MB
Ryzen 3 Pro 1200 3.1/3.4

These chips both look a lot like Ryzen 5 1400s with SMT disabled. The Ryzen 3 1300 boasts reasonable 3.5 GHz base and 3.7 GHz boost speeds, and AMD’s Extended Frequency Range tech might let it boost even higher in lightly-threaded workloads. The Ryzen 3 1200 drops back to 3.1 GHz base and 3.4 GHz boost speeds. Both of these four-core, four-thread parts slot into 65W TDPs.

The rest of the Ryzen Pro lineup generally follows the path blazed by existing Ryzen parts. The Ryzen 5 Pro 1500 looks like a repurposed Ryzen 5 1500X, the Ryzen 5 Pro 1600 looks like a repurposed Ryzen 5 1600, and so on for the pair of Ryzen 7 Pro parts. The range-topping Ryzen 7 1800X doesn’t get a Pro counterpart, however. AMD says that chip’s power requirements, pricing, and performance are better suited for enthusiast battlestations than the corporate boardroom.

Of course, every Ryzen Pro chip will keep AMD’s SenseMI onboard monitoring intelligence. That means Precision Boost will kick up the clocks in lightly-threaded workloads and Extended Frequency Range will let cores boost higher in those workloads, presuming sufficient cooling is present.

Every Ryzen Pro chip will still require some form of discrete graphics card as part of its host system, as well, a requirement that Intel CPUs can get around with their integrated graphics processors. AMD used the entry-level Radeon R7 240 and Radeon R7 430 as two examples of discrete cards we might find in Ryzen Pro systems. Of course, system integrators should be free to choose entry-level cards from Nvidia, as well.

Zen puts on a suit

The most interesting features of Ryzen Pro chips come from the embedded AMD Secure Processor that’s integrated into each Ryzen CPU. The SP will allow Ryzen Pro chips to enjoy many of the same features available from AMD’s Epyc server CPUs, including encryption of system memory through hardware and a root of trust for secure boot.

The Ryzen Pro platform will also ship with firmware Trusted Platform Module support that will conform to the TPM 2.0 standard. AMD claims these features will be available on every Ryzen Pro chip, something Intel apparently can’t boast of its Core i3 parts.

Stability is the other major selling point alongside security for Ryzen Pro chips. AMD claims administrators can rely on an 18-month window of platform stability when they ready system imagees for deployment, and they’ll be able to procure a given Ryzen Pro CPU for at least 24 months. AMD is also guaranteeing at least four years of availability for the AM4 platform, and it claims that socket will support “n-2, n-1, and n+1” generations of AM4-compatible CPUs. AMD further claims it’ll back up Ryzen Pro systems with a three-year warranty to system integrators.

To counter Intel’s proprietary vPro remote manageability suite, the Ryzen Pro platform will offer support for the open DASH remote management platform. Like vPro, DASH offers out-of-band management tools for system administrators across their corporate networks. According to the Distributed Management Task Force standards body, DASH offers KVM and console redirection, media redirection, software and firmware update capabilities, and more.

AMD did offer some performance projections for Ryzen Pro parts versus somewhat comparable Intel CPUs, although I’m not going to dive too deep into those here.

Predictably, AMD believes Ryzen Pro systems will offer big performance boosts in multithreaded and graphics-intensive tasks compared to their locked Intel competitors, although single-threaded and latency-sensitive benchmarks like Sysmark still favor Intel parts in some cases.

Given the preponderance of Office and web browsing in many corporate environments, Ryzen’s slight single-threaded performance deficit and unavoidable need for a discrete GPU may not prove favorable to cost-sensitive IT directors. We’ll just have to see how the TCO calculations shake out.

Today’s information release only marks the beginning of AMD’s elbowing into corporate IT budgets. We don’t know how much Ryzen Pro CPUs and motherboards might cost, although it’s unlikely most builders will choose such a platform over consumer Ryzen parts. These components seem far more likely to show up in prebuilt, warrantied desktops from Dell and HP. AMD promises we’ll learn more about the Ryzen Pro ecosystem August 29.

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    • Redocbew
    • 2 years ago

    I’m assuming there’s not any functional difference between these and the chips we’ve seen already, so, they’re basically just rubber-stamping chips they would have sold anyway with extra business policies attached around warranties and whatnot?

    Not a bad idea I guess given their current situation.

      • NoOne ButMe
      • 2 years ago

      Probably have the same validation as EPYC except for ECC RAM.

      Professional parts have always had longer validation than consumer.

    • ronch
    • 2 years ago

    These ‘Pro’cessors from AMD have always made me scratch my head. Don’t AMD features stay constant across the board? And platform stability.. if AM4 takes off you can be certain there would be no problem with platform stability or reliability.

      • maxxcool
      • 2 years ago

      Better silicon selection. In theory anyways..

    • NTMBK
    • 2 years ago

    Ryzen, now with added NSA back doors!

      • NoOne ButMe
      • 2 years ago

      Because Consumer Ryzen lack NSA backdoors ??

        • ronch
        • 2 years ago

        Consumer Ryzen = Cryzen

    • just brew it!
    • 2 years ago

    I think releasing a platform aimed at corporate desktops without an integrated graphics solution is a big mistake.

    Also, any word on whether it officially supports ECC?

      • RAGEPRO
      • 2 years ago

      It definitely should. You can use unbuffered ECC memory with standard Ryzen chips on some motherboards.

        • just brew it!
        • 2 years ago

        Yeah, but it is not officially supported by AMD because the parts haven’t been validated for it.

      • YukaKun
      • 2 years ago

      I can tell you first hand, the OEMs offering the laptops and computers, don’t care about iGPU in a CPU.

      Every single laptop and desktop computer Dell/HP offers to corporations comes with a GPU (discrete) in either optional or mandatory. Ironically enough, only the ultra-slim laptops (that are WAY more expensive) come with iGPU only.

      In regards to ECC, no idea. They’ve always said it’s up to the OEM/MoBo maker to include it or not?

      Cheers!

        • just brew it!
        • 2 years ago

        Seems odd that they wouldn’t care, adding a discrete GPU — even a crippled one — is a significant additional cost when you’re dealing with a low-margin product like commodity desktop systems.

        As I noted in another post, my question about ECC was regarding whether it is [i<]officially[/i<] supported/validated or not (for the non-Pro chips it apparently is not). Official support from AMD might encourage more motherboard makers to support it as well.

      • AMDisDEC
      • 2 years ago

      There is probably no need for ECC for simple business desktops, Especially those being connected to EPYC servers.
      Before the end of year chips with integrated graphics will hit the scene for those lower cost customers.

      This is a great move by AMD! Keep it simple, Silicon man.
      Lisa Su is pure Genius! She is making me and other AMD shareholders good money with this product and Vega hasn’t even been released yet.

    • blahsaysblah
    • 2 years ago

    Is there any hint that the transparent hardware level memory encryption has any level of hardware accelerated memory compression?

    edit: and would the feature take the place of ECC, for a lot of domains, at least with regards to stuff only needing detection at memory controller/OS level and not transparent correction.

    edit2: ZFS…

    • Krogoth
    • 2 years ago

    AMD is trying to score some of that nice OEM vendor SMB marketshare

    • DragonDaddyBear
    • 2 years ago

    I’m skeptical as to what this “pro” feature is. It mostly looks like a marketing badging exercise by AMD (surprise!). Intel’s vPro features are very tangible and grant some pretty low-level access to the hardware. That said, given recent security issues with vPro I’m not sure I’d want that kind of access to the system to be enabled on work systems.

      • JosiahBradley
      • 2 years ago

      DASH. Think open sourced vPro without artificial limits on what can be managed and having to buy particular SKUs just to put your chips in the business. At work the main reason we can’t go vPro is because it requires forcing particular chips options not always available from vendors. We don’t need i5s when an i3 will do but someone says oh it needs vPro and there goes 100$. I hope to see our desktop platform change to AMD over the next few years as I push these to anyone who will listen. Already got Ryzen workstations in the mix might as well help the desktop.

        • DragonDaddyBear
        • 2 years ago

        The wiki page for DASH says vPro is an implementation of DASH. I learned something new today.

        I believe for vPro to be enabled you need not just a CPU but a chipset with the supporting technologies. Do all AMD chipsets support DASH and it’s only enabled in the APU/CPU?

          • RAGEPRO
          • 2 years ago

          Unless I’m mistaken DASH is actually supported on all AMD PRO chips. e.g. [url<]https://techreport.com/news/30741/amd-goes-after-vpro-with-seventh-gen-pro-apus[/url<]

            • NoOne ButMe
            • 2 years ago

            Has been on all PRO chips since Kaveri or Carrizo.

        • Beahmont
        • 2 years ago

        Why? Just Why?

        You’re complaining about an extra $100 dollars when you’re going to have to spend around that much to get a discrete graphics card for each AMD system because none of these are APU’s.

        You make no sense.

          • JosiahBradley
          • 2 years ago

          Not sure what type of Office GPU’s you buy but they aren’t 100$, also if a machine is getting a good GPU for something like triple/quad monitor support it wasn’t going to be using the iGPU from Intel anyhow. Also the platform cost are way cheaper from AMD as is the price/performance which adds up when you’re buying 5,000 machines.

    • Lord.Blue
    • 2 years ago

    This looks like more of AMD poking Intel with a stick that happens to be on fire. We saw how Intel reacted with the X299 blunderbuss – it will be interesting to see what the response(if there is any) will be to this.

      • DreadCthulhu
      • 2 years ago

      I think Intel already launched a preemptive counter to the lower end Ryzens, by adding hyperthreading to the kabylake Pentiums (which is quite good for its price, but has the downside of making the i3 lineup pointless).

      Their response to these business orientated Ryzens will be interesting.

        • nanoflower
        • 2 years ago

        I’m not expecting much this year from Intel. Next year we should see Intel making real moves to counter Ryzen which should make it much more interesting for the consumer.

          • NoOne ButMe
          • 2 years ago

          2019-2021 is when we see silicon design countering.
          Depending on how more Intel messes with roadmap shrinkingz

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